Belfast Telegraph
By Brian Rowan
Wednesday 13, December 2006 - 09:04
The so-called hard men of loyalism do not stand in the way of an Ian Paisley-Martin McGuinness government.
That was the message delivered by the UDA’s political wing - the Ulster Political Research Group - in an interview with the Belfast Telegraph.
UPRG spokesman Davy Nicholl told this newspaper: “The UDA does have concerns with St Andrews and would reject it on the basis of the constitutional tests” - a reference to its north-south aspects. ” There’s no rejection of power sharing.
“We won’t be voting for Sinn Fein,” but he said they accepted the ” democratic right” of the nationalist-republican community to do so.
“It is for Ian Paisley with the democratic mandate that he has to determine the course of action he has to take to move the unionist people out of conflict,” the loyalist spokesman said.
Four members of the UPRG spoke to this newspaper.
On the arms question - decommissioning - Mr Nicholl said the UDA had made clear this issue would be addressed “in the fullness of time”.
The organisation was talking to General John de Chastelain’s Commission, but there was no suggestion of any imminent arms move.
Republican dissidents posed “a significant armed threat”, and according to the loyalists that threat could grow.
“We believe that when Martin McGuinness takes the oath (supporting policing), he will have breached the green book of the Provisional Army Council and there is a likelihood that others will swing to the dissident elements,” Mr Nicholl said.
He also claimed the dissidents were “actively targeting” in his community, and there were concerns that they could carry out an attack - or some “stunt” - “to draw loyalists in”.
The political spokesman for the UDA further claimed that it had knowledge that both the British and Irish Governments had “back channel contacts” with the dissident groups.
“What that will bring them to, we don’t know,” Mr Nicholl added.
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They are talking and watching, but they are not decommissioning …
By Brian Rowan
It was the UDA that wanted to talk. Well, not quite the UDA, but its political wing - the Ulster Political Research Group.
It’s the new way in this part of the loyalist world. Yes, there is still a paramilitary leadership in place - the inner council and its “brigadiers “, but things are different now.
This organisation - after all of the falling out and the feuding with Johnny Adair and John White and Jim Gray and the Shoukris and Alan McClean - has been easing its way back into the peace process.
It has met with the British and Irish governments, has been given some money to develop “conflict transformation initiatives” and has been trying to keep its paramilitary nose clean.
That will take a rather large handkerchief - and probably more than one.
Are things perfect? No they are not - far from it, but they are getting better, or, more accurately, the leadership is trying to make things better.
That leadership has taken a step back and pushed its political spokesmen forward.
I met four of them yesterday - Davy Nicholl from Londonderry, William ” Twister” McQuiston from west Belfast, Colin Halliday from Dromore who is closely associated with the UDA leader Jackie McDonald, and Sammy Duddy from north Belfast.
The faces aren’t new, but the role is becoming more significant, because the paramilitaries are allowing that to happen.
These people are now the talking heads of loyalism - or this part of loyalism that fits under the umbrella of the UDA and the UPRG.
It is an indication that things are becoming more political - that the ” war” end of things is over, or nearly over.
And, it is in this changing context, that the inner council has begun to fade into the background and has left the stage, or more of the stage, to those who spoke yesterday.
“That is not to say that from time to time that they (the UDA) will not issue important directives,” Davy Nicholl explains - but on the political stuff others will now do the talking.
Yesterday they discussed a whole range of issues - power sharing, the St Andrews Agreement, decommissioning, or more accurately the reasons for non-decommissioning, and the continuing threat posed by a range of republican dissident groups.
The loyalists believe that threat could grow as republicans move ever closer to endorsing policing - a process which has taken Gerry Adams and a senior party delegation into talks today with Sir Hugh Orde, his deputy Paul Leighton and the assistant chief constable Peter Sheridan, who has control of Special Branch and who is the author of five principles aimed at defining the new PSNI-MI5 working relationship on national security issues.
“We believe that when Martin McGuinness takes the oath (supporting policing) that he will have breached the green book of the Provisional Army Council, and there is a likelihood that others will swing to the dissident elements,” Davy Nicholl of the UPRG told this newspaper.
The loyalists believe the dissidents already pose “a significant armed threat” - that they are actively targeting inside the loyalist community, and that they could try something, some “stunt”, to ” draw in” organisations such as the UDA.
You wonder if all of this is a context being created by loyalists to defend the organisation’s position on decommissioning, or, as mentioned earlier, non-decommissioning.
They will tell you that they are speaking to General John de Chastelain’s Commission, but it is clear that conversation is not about an imminent arms move.
“Are they prepared to make the journey?” Davy Nicholl asks - meaning are the dissident republican groups ready for peace and decommissioning.
“Clearly they are not,” is the answer he gives to his own question.
And all of this takes you to the position that the UDA will deal with the arms question “in the fullness of time” - whatever that means.
Clearly it means not now and not in the near future.
The organisation certainly doesn’t feel threatened by the developing politics - or that part of the developing politics which could have Ian Paisley and Martin McGuinness in the same Executive.
Yes, there are parts of the St Andrews Agreement that the UDA and its political wing don’t like - the north-south bits and the Irish Language Act, but there is “no concern about the power-sharing aspect”.
And that means the loyalist hard men are not standing in the way of a power-sharing deal involving the DUP and Sinn Fein.
There is a confidence about these men.
No sense of nervousness about the future; no complaints that they are being left out or left behind, but more a belief that they are being encouraged to be involved in what is now developing.
They want to develop within their own communities these “conflict transformation initiatives” - develop them across Northern Ireland, and that will mean looking for more money from the government to add to the £135,000 recently allocated for these types of projects.
The loyalists are keeping an eye to what’s happening in the bigger political picture, of course they are, but they aren’t waiting for anyone else to give them directions or tell them what to do - not any more.
“We will be rowing our own boat,” William McQuiston said. “We will make the decisions about our future. Nobody’s writing our script.”
The loyalists, it seems, are ready to think and talk for themselves - on every issue and all issues.
It’s all part of what is changing. They are saying some of the right things, but they need to do more of the right things.