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Special on Ireland – An interview with Saoirse Harte, spokesperson in Italy for the 32CSM, the Republicans who refused the sell-out to London
Repression, arrests, sectarianism, discrimination. Words that, hearing them daily embedded in half the world, would offer nothing other than a memory of The Occupied Six and above all of Irish nationalists. Even more it would mean far more memories for people of Dublin and the Republic of Ireland. Unfortunately it is not like that. Tension is on the agenda and Ireland, both North and South, is everything but at peace. There isn’t only Sinn Fein in the Green Island. There isn’t only “the patinated” peace of the Stormont government signed with the English. There are also political movements and parties that still fight for independence and the Irish unity, without an English presence.
Ireland is living a dramatic moment. A Republican prisoner in Portlaoise Gaol is risking the amputation of a foot and perhaps even worse because the Irish authorities deny him the possibility of visiting and help from an expert in an external structure. We talked to Saoirse Harte, the spokesperson in Italy of the 32 County Sovereignty Movement about this and other issues.
Q. First of all let’s talk about Aidan Hulme, the Irish prisoner who in this moment in grave danger in Portlaoise Gaol.
A. Aidan was arrested and imprisoned in England in 2003 for the London BBC bomb in March 2001 with two other people. It should be pointed out that there was no direct evidence to link Aidan to the bomb but a series of suggestive evidence linking them to a political group. At that point we mobilized with protests and petitions to have these three people repatriated to Ireland, inasmuch as European citizens they have the right of being moved to a gaol closer to home in order to facilitate the family visits. Of the three, only Aidan and his brother were repatriated in 2006.
Q. Was Aidan already injured when he was incarcerated in the UK?
A. Yes, Aidan had a horrible motorbike accident before being arrested and was undergoing treatment when incarcerated. When he was sent to Gaol in England he was denied medical Treatment and his situation got worse. Then in 2004 we protested against the negligence of the English doctors. What’s worse is that once he was repatriated he was still denied treatment!
Q. When did the situation get to be alarming?
A. In February of this year the situation became more and more alarming. During a recent medical visit, the doctor found that Aidan’s toes had turned black and the doctor fears gangrene. The doctor has asked the Prison Governor to let Aidan see a specialist. The director said that he Aidan’s case would have had the maximum priority, but still no provision has been taken. Aidan is currently taking twenty-one pills a day for the pain and the use of morphine patches has become necessary. His skin has turned yellow which indicates liver damage due to all the medication that he is taking. Currently Aidan is bedridden 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
Q. What has been organised?
A. Other than protests, we have started a letter writing petition to the Justice Minister Dermot Ahern for immediate action. I have spoken personally with the Minister’s office but have been fobbed off with the most banal of excuses as have many others. And no progress has been made.
Q. This absurd situation is very similar to what happened to Kevin Murray, isn’t it?
A. Exactly. Kevin was a prisoner in the same Gaol arrested for political reasons. He had continuing headaches, he was not well, he asked for a doctor and he was systematically denied his right to medical treatment. When he was finally allowed to see a doctor, the only thing left to do for him was to send him to a hospice to die because of a massive brain tumour. Maybe the outcome would have been the same, but he had the right to medical treatment. That was 2001. Nobody has been brought to justice for Kevin’s death. After seven years we find ourselves front of a very similar situation, Aidan is risking his life and it seems that no one cares. Republicans are treated like second class citizens by the Irish government.
Q. Tell us about you movement, the 32CSM
A. We are not a political party, but a movement because we do not present ourselves for elections; we do not recognise them as valid and official. We fight for a Free Sovereign Ireland. Our objectives are National Irish Sovereignty, Republican unity and the promotion of the revolutionary ideals of Republicanism. We also demand the immediate and unconditional release for all Irish political prisoners in the world. In the United States as an example there is a prisoner who awaits trail 25 years after his ‘offence’, not being an American citizen and being a Republican.
Q. When was your movement founded?
A. Most of our founding members came from within Sinn Fein and within Sinn Fein there was a committee called the 32 County Sovereignty Committee. In 1997, with the peace talks with the English, the party split. On the 7th December of that year there was a meeting of the activists who had left Sinn Fein because of their sell-out to England. For an English Treaty. And that night the 32CSM was founded. The year after, in 1998, we have sent a legal submission to the UN asking them not to recognise the GFA Referendum, inasmuch as English did not have the right to organize it and it also questioned the British Soverenity in Ireland.
Q. Is the 32CSM a 32 County Movement?
A. Yes, the movement is present in all the 32 counties of Ireland with activists. We are also in England and Italy as international lobby groups. Other than representing the republican cause, we are very active in Social work and work against drugs in our communities and anti-social behaviour as it has no place in society. Obviously also we are also busy working against the Lisbon Treaty.
Q. What is the current situation in Ireland?
A. North and South it’s a difficult situation. In the North the police continue to use the same methods and with a biconfessional government and nothing has changed. For this reason many people are leaving Sinn Fein, which is always further away from its’ grassroots. Republicans are furthering themselves from Sinn Fein who seem to be more interested in being part of a foreign government in Ireland. There is also internment by remand where republican activists are arrested and put in gaol for long periods of time with no evidence against them other than the fact they are Republicans and the word of a police officer this is a serious danger for all Republicans. We also have the use of the Special Criminal Court, a court which is in contravention of Human Rights as set out by the EU and for every seating is fined around €10,000 by Brussels. It should be noted that the Irish government pays this fine in advance, doesn’t it seem strange to you to pay a fine in advance?
Q. Last question. Is there any position with other Pro Independence groups in Ireland?
A. Yes, there is the Republican Network for Unity, a grouping where ex POWs are present, IRSP (Irish Republican Socialist Party) and other independent republicans. In other words, unity is open to all those who have not accepted the sell-out to the English and that continue to resist.
Tommaso Della Longa
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